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What's the realistic end state as far as the US is concerned? The already unpopular war becomes more unpopular by the day as the gap between spin and reality widens, but the US is unlikely to exit the conflict without being able to claim victory.

The administration also self-imposed a loose time limit early in the war, with most statements implying a roughly month-long campaign. If the goals of regime change and denuclearization can't be achieved in the next ~3 weeks how will they spin the state of affairs at that point into a victory narrative?

I think they'd choose between:

1. Declaring victory anyway and using the strategy of confidently asserting dubious information, testing how far supporters are willing to follow them (this has not seemed to fail in the past but we could be at a bridge too far). They've already been doing this since bombing began. Playing the game of claiming left wing media is just out to get them while the truth is it was a successful campaign. The US then continues to support Israel as they keep up the kinetic war.

2. Continuing to bomb despite the prospects of regime change or denuclearization being nil and blaming Iran or the Iranian people for not behaving like they should have, rather than accepting that this was the most likely outcome from the outset per the IC's own assessments.

3. Double down with ground troops for catastrophic results.

Is this the right line of thinking? Are there other possible or more likely outcomes?

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Professor Pape:

You mentioned nuclear escalation risk. I am not sure I understand your argument. One can understand how a state threatened with extinction would reach for nuclear escalation. But neither Israel nor the US face any existential risk in this conflict. So where is the risk of nuclear escalation?

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